diff --git a/faq.html b/faq.html
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--- a/faq.html
+++ b/faq.html
@@ -389,7 +389,7 @@
 
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 <h1 id="ioccc-faq-table-of-contents">IOCCC FAQ Table of Contents</h1>
-<p>This is FAQ version <strong>28.0.8 2024-10-18</strong>.</p>
+<p>This is FAQ version <strong>28.0.9 2024-10-19</strong>.</p>
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     NOTE: when updating the table of contents, make sure to use unordered
     NOTE: lists to make it easier to add entries in the middle of a section,
@@ -443,6 +443,9 @@
 <a class="normal" href="#questions">What is the best way to ask a question about the IOCCC rules, guideline and tools?</a>
 </li>
 <li>
+<a class="normal" href="#feedback">How can I comment or make a suggestion on IOCCC rules, guidelines and tools?</a>
+</li>
+<li>
 <a class="normal" href="#warnings">Are there any compiler warnings that I should not worry about?</a>
 </li>
 <li>
@@ -467,9 +470,6 @@
 <a class="normal" href="#winners">How are winning IOCCC entries announced?</a>
 </li>
 <li>
-<a class="normal" href="#feedback">How can I comment or make a suggestion on IOCCC rules, guidelines and tools?</a>
-</li>
-<li>
 <a class="normal" href="#lost">Why don’t you publish submissions that do not win?</a>
 </li>
 </ol>
@@ -978,79 +978,6 @@ this is not clear!</li>
 <p>Jump to: <a href="#">top</a></p>
 </li>
 <li>
-<div id="feedback">
-<div id="comments">
-<h3 id="q-how-can-i-comment-or-make-a-suggestion-on-ioccc-rules-guidelines-and-tools">Q: How can I comment or make a suggestion on IOCCC rules, guidelines and tools?</h3>
-</div>
-</div>
-<p>The <a href="judges.html">IOCCC judges</a> to welcome feedback on the <a href="next/rules.html">IOCCC
-rules</a>, <a href="next/guidelines.html">IOCCC guidelines</a>
-and on the <a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry">IOCCC mkiocccentry tools</a>.</p>
-<p>To comment on the <a href="next/rules.html">IOCCC rules</a> or the
-<a href="next/guidelines.html">IOCCC guidelines</a> please view the
-<a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/winner/discussions">GitHub discussions for this repo</a>.
-If there is an on-going discussion that seems relevant to what you
-have to say, consider adding comments to that particular discussion.
-Otherwise consider opening a <a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/winner/discussions/new/choose">new IOCCC repo
-discussion</a>.</p>
-<p>To comment on <a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry">IOCCC mkiocccentry tools</a>,
-please view the <a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions">mkiocccentry repo discussions</a>.
-If there is an on-going discussion that seems relevant to what you
-have to say, consider adding comments to that particular discussion.
-Otherwise consider opening a <a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions/new/choose">new mkiocccentry
-discussion</a>.</p>
-<p>Jump to: <a href="#">top</a></p>
-</li>
-<li>
-<div id="question">
-<div id="questions">
-<h3 id="q-what-is-the-best-way-to-ask-a-question-about-the-ioccc-rules-guideline-and-tools">Q: What is the best way to ask a question about the IOCCC rules, guideline and tools?</h3>
-</div>
-</div>
-<p>We realise that the <a href="next/rules.html">IOCCC rules</a>, <a href="next/guidelines.html">IOCCC guidelines</a>
-and the <a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry">IOCCC mkiocccentry tools</a>
-can be confusing or even seem overwhelming to some people.</p>
-<p>The <a href="judges.html">IOCCC judges</a> do welcome questions about the IOCCC
-and will be <strong>happy to help</strong>.</p>
-<p>Chances are, if you have a question, there are a number of other people who
-have similar questions. So we recommend first view the
-<a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/winner/discussions">GitHub discussions for this repo</a>
-so see if someone else asked already. Feel free to join in on such a discussion,
-even if to just say:</p>
-<blockquote>
-<p>I have this question too.</p>
-</blockquote>
-<p>Feel free to provide additional feedback in the existing discussion as needed.</p>
-<p><strong>BTW</strong>: If your question is just about the
-<a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry">IOCCC mkiocccentry tools</a>, please
-view the <a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions">mkiocccentry repo discussions</a>
-instead.</p>
-<p>If you do not find a suitable open discussion, please consider opening a
-<a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/winner/discussions/new/choose">new IOCCC repo discussion</a> with
-your question. Doing this may be of help to others with a question similar to yours.</p>
-<p><strong>BTW</strong>: If your question is just about the
-<a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions">IOCCC mkiocccentry
-tools</a>, and you do not
-see a suitable open discussion over there, then please consider opening a
-<a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions/new/choose">new mkiocccentry discussion</a>
-over there.</p>
-<p>If you do not feel, for some reason, comfortable asking your question in public
-(although we hope you consider asking it in public for the benefit of others),
-then use the <a href="contact.html">How to contact the IOCCC</a> information to ask
-a private question.</p>
-<p><strong>IMPORTANT</strong>: When you ask your question (in public or as a private question)
-<strong>PLEASE</strong> try to <strong>NOT</strong> discuss detailed information about any pending submission.
-Try to ask for question in a more generic way as this will help others
-with a similar question and this will not <strong>give away</strong> what you might be doing
-with your submission. If the <a href="judges.html">IOCCC judges</a> truly need more
-information, they will ask (either in public or suggest a private conversation).</p>
-<p>Again, <strong>please</strong> don’t hesitate to ask: Your question may be something that
-others are wondering about as well!</p>
-<p>See also the
-FAQ on “<a href="#feedback">rules, guidelines, tools feedback</a>”.</p>
-<p>Jump to: <a href="#">top</a></p>
-</li>
-<li>
 <div id="auth_json">
 <h3 id="q-what-is-a-.auth.json-file">Q: What is a <code>.auth.json</code> file?</h3>
 </div>
@@ -1948,6 +1875,78 @@ in the <a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry">mkiocccentry repo</a>
 <h2 id="section-2-ioccc-judging-process">Section 2: IOCCC Judging process</h2>
 </div>
 <p>Jump to: <a href="#">top</a></p>
+<li>
+<div id="question">
+<div id="questions">
+<h3 id="q-what-is-the-best-way-to-ask-a-question-about-the-ioccc-rules-guideline-and-tools">Q: What is the best way to ask a question about the IOCCC rules, guideline and tools?</h3>
+</div>
+</div>
+<p>We realise that the <a href="next/rules.html">IOCCC rules</a>, <a href="next/guidelines.html">IOCCC guidelines</a>
+and the <a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry">IOCCC mkiocccentry tools</a>
+can be confusing or even seem overwhelming to some people.</p>
+<p>The <a href="judges.html">IOCCC judges</a> do welcome questions about the IOCCC
+and will be <strong>happy to help</strong>.</p>
+<p>Chances are, if you have a question, there are a number of other people who
+have similar questions. So we recommend first view the
+<a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/winner/discussions">GitHub discussions for this repo</a>
+so see if someone else asked already. Feel free to join in on such a discussion,
+even if to just say:</p>
+<blockquote>
+<p>I have this question too.</p>
+</blockquote>
+<p>Feel free to provide additional feedback in the existing discussion as needed.</p>
+<p><strong>BTW</strong>: If your question is just about the
+<a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry">IOCCC mkiocccentry tools</a>, please
+view the <a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions">mkiocccentry repo discussions</a>
+instead.</p>
+<p>If you do not find a suitable open discussion, please consider opening a
+<a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/winner/discussions/new/choose">new IOCCC repo discussion</a> with
+your question. Doing this may be of help to others with a question similar to yours.</p>
+<p><strong>BTW</strong>: If your question is just about the
+<a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions">IOCCC mkiocccentry
+tools</a>, and you do not
+see a suitable open discussion over there, then please consider opening a
+<a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions/new/choose">new mkiocccentry discussion</a>
+over there.</p>
+<p>If you do not feel, for some reason, comfortable asking your question in public
+(although we hope you consider asking it in public for the benefit of others),
+then use the <a href="contact.html">How to contact the IOCCC</a> information to ask
+a private question.</p>
+<p><strong>IMPORTANT</strong>: When you ask your question (in public or as a private question)
+<strong>PLEASE</strong> try to <strong>NOT</strong> discuss detailed information about any pending submission.
+Try to ask for question in a more generic way as this will help others
+with a similar question and this will not <strong>give away</strong> what you might be doing
+with your submission. If the <a href="judges.html">IOCCC judges</a> truly need more
+information, they will ask (either in public or suggest a private conversation).</p>
+<p>Again, <strong>please</strong> don’t hesitate to ask: Your question may be something that
+others are wondering about as well!</p>
+<p>See also the
+FAQ on “<a href="#feedback">rules, guidelines, tools feedback</a>”.</p>
+<p>Jump to: <a href="#">top</a></p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<div id="feedback">
+<div id="comments">
+<h3 id="q-how-can-i-comment-or-make-a-suggestion-on-ioccc-rules-guidelines-and-tools">Q: How can I comment or make a suggestion on IOCCC rules, guidelines and tools?</h3>
+</div>
+</div>
+<p>The <a href="judges.html">IOCCC judges</a> to welcome feedback on the <a href="next/rules.html">IOCCC
+rules</a>, <a href="next/guidelines.html">IOCCC guidelines</a>
+and on the <a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry">IOCCC mkiocccentry tools</a>.</p>
+<p>To comment on the <a href="next/rules.html">IOCCC rules</a> or the
+<a href="next/guidelines.html">IOCCC guidelines</a> please view the
+<a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/winner/discussions">GitHub discussions for this repo</a>.
+If there is an on-going discussion that seems relevant to what you
+have to say, consider adding comments to that particular discussion.
+Otherwise consider opening a <a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/winner/discussions/new/choose">new IOCCC repo
+discussion</a>.</p>
+<p>To comment on <a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry">IOCCC mkiocccentry tools</a>,
+please view the <a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions">mkiocccentry repo discussions</a>.
+If there is an on-going discussion that seems relevant to what you
+have to say, consider adding comments to that particular discussion.
+Otherwise consider opening a <a href="https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions/new/choose">new mkiocccentry
+discussion</a>.</p>
+<p>Jump to: <a href="#">top</a></p>
 </li>
 <li>
 <div id="how_many">
diff --git a/faq.md b/faq.md
index 8a1160221..2f9901ef4 100644
--- a/faq.md
+++ b/faq.md
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 # IOCCC FAQ Table of Contents
 
-This is FAQ version **28.0.8 2024-10-18**.
+This is FAQ version **28.0.9 2024-10-19**.
 
 <!--
     NOTE: when updating the table of contents, make sure to use unordered
@@ -35,6 +35,7 @@ This is FAQ version **28.0.8 2024-10-18**.
 ## 2. [IOCCC Judging process](#judging)
 <ol>
 <li><a class="normal" href="#questions">What is the best way to ask a question about the IOCCC rules, guideline and tools?</a></li>
+<li><a class="normal" href="#feedback">How can I comment or make a suggestion on IOCCC rules, guidelines and tools?</a></li>
 <li><a class="normal" href="#warnings">Are there any compiler warnings that I should not worry about?</a></li>
 <li><a class="normal" href="#frequent-themes">What types of entries have been frequently submitted to the IOCCC?</a></li>
 <li><a class="normal" href="#rule_2_broken">How did an entry that breaks the size rule 2 win the IOCCC?</a></li>
@@ -43,7 +44,6 @@ This is FAQ version **28.0.8 2024-10-18**.
 <li><a class="normal" href="#judging_rounds">How many judging rounds do you have?</a></li>
 <li><a class="normal" href="#grand_prize">Why do some IOCCC entries receive the Grand Prize or Best of Show award?</a></li>
 <li><a class="normal" href="#winners">How are winning IOCCC entries announced?</a></li>
-<li><a class="normal" href="#feedback">How can I comment or make a suggestion on IOCCC rules, guidelines and tools?</a></li>
 <li><a class="normal" href="#lost">Why don't you publish submissions that do not win?</a></li>
 </ol>
 </li>
@@ -517,96 +517,8 @@ Jump to: [top](#)
 
 </li>
 
-<li>
-<div id="feedback">
-<div id="comments">
-### Q: How can I comment or make a suggestion on IOCCC rules, guidelines and tools?
-</div>
-</div>
 
-The [IOCCC judges](judges.html) to welcome feedback on the [IOCCC
-rules](next/rules.html), [IOCCC guidelines](next/guidelines.html)
-and on the [IOCCC mkiocccentry tools](https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry).
 
-To comment on the [IOCCC rules](next/rules.html) or the
-[IOCCC guidelines](next/guidelines.html) please view the
-[GitHub discussions for this repo](https://github.com/ioccc-src/winner/discussions).
-If there is an on-going discussion that seems relevant to what you
-have to say, consider adding comments to that particular discussion.
-Otherwise consider opening a [new IOCCC repo
-discussion](https://github.com/ioccc-src/winner/discussions/new/choose).
-
-To comment on [IOCCC mkiocccentry tools](https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry),
-please view the [mkiocccentry repo discussions](https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions).
-If there is an on-going discussion that seems relevant to what you
-have to say, consider adding comments to that particular discussion.
-Otherwise consider opening a [new mkiocccentry
-discussion](https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions/new/choose).
-
-Jump to: [top](#)
-
-</li>
-<li>
-<div id="question">
-<div id="questions">
-### Q: What is the best way to ask a question about the IOCCC rules, guideline and tools?
-</div>
-</div>
-
-We realise that the [IOCCC rules](next/rules.html), [IOCCC guidelines](next/guidelines.html)
-and the [IOCCC mkiocccentry tools](https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry)
-can be confusing or even seem overwhelming to some people.
-
-The [IOCCC judges](judges.html) do welcome questions about the IOCCC
-and will be **happy to help**.
-
-Chances are, if you have a question, there are a number of other people who
-have similar questions.  So we recommend first view the
-[GitHub discussions for this repo](https://github.com/ioccc-src/winner/discussions)
-so see if someone else asked already.  Feel free to join in on such a discussion,
-even if to just say:
-
-> I have this question too.
-
-Feel free to provide additional feedback in the existing discussion as needed.
-
-**BTW**: If your question is just about the
-[IOCCC mkiocccentry tools](https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry), please
-view the [mkiocccentry repo discussions](https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions)
-instead.
-
-If you do not find a suitable open discussion, please consider opening a
-[new IOCCC repo discussion](https://github.com/ioccc-src/winner/discussions/new/choose) with
-your question.  Doing this may be of help to others with a question similar to yours.
-
-**BTW**: If your question is just about the
-[IOCCC mkiocccentry
-tools](https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions), and you do not
-see a suitable open discussion over there, then please consider opening a
-[new mkiocccentry discussion](https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions/new/choose)
-over there.
-
-If you do not feel, for some reason, comfortable asking your question in public
-(although we hope you consider asking it in public for the benefit of others),
-then use the [How to contact the IOCCC](contact.html) information to ask
-a private question.
-
-**IMPORTANT**: When you ask your question (in public or as a private question)
-**PLEASE** try to **NOT** discuss detailed information about any pending submission.
-Try to ask for question in a more generic way as this will help others
-with a similar question and this will not **give away** what you might be doing
-with your submission.  If the [IOCCC judges](judges.html) truly need more
-information, they will ask (either in public or suggest a private conversation).
-
-Again, **please** don't hesitate to ask: Your question may be something that
-others are wondering about as well!
-
-See also the
-FAQ on "[rules, guidelines, tools feedback](#feedback)".
-
-Jump to: [top](#)
-
-</li>
 
 
 
@@ -1587,7 +1499,100 @@ Jump to: [top](#)
 
 Jump to: [top](#)
 
+
+<li>
+<div id="question">
+<div id="questions">
+### Q: What is the best way to ask a question about the IOCCC rules, guideline and tools?
+</div>
+</div>
+
+We realise that the [IOCCC rules](next/rules.html), [IOCCC guidelines](next/guidelines.html)
+and the [IOCCC mkiocccentry tools](https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry)
+can be confusing or even seem overwhelming to some people.
+
+The [IOCCC judges](judges.html) do welcome questions about the IOCCC
+and will be **happy to help**.
+
+Chances are, if you have a question, there are a number of other people who
+have similar questions.  So we recommend first view the
+[GitHub discussions for this repo](https://github.com/ioccc-src/winner/discussions)
+so see if someone else asked already.  Feel free to join in on such a discussion,
+even if to just say:
+
+> I have this question too.
+
+Feel free to provide additional feedback in the existing discussion as needed.
+
+**BTW**: If your question is just about the
+[IOCCC mkiocccentry tools](https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry), please
+view the [mkiocccentry repo discussions](https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions)
+instead.
+
+If you do not find a suitable open discussion, please consider opening a
+[new IOCCC repo discussion](https://github.com/ioccc-src/winner/discussions/new/choose) with
+your question.  Doing this may be of help to others with a question similar to yours.
+
+**BTW**: If your question is just about the
+[IOCCC mkiocccentry
+tools](https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions), and you do not
+see a suitable open discussion over there, then please consider opening a
+[new mkiocccentry discussion](https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions/new/choose)
+over there.
+
+If you do not feel, for some reason, comfortable asking your question in public
+(although we hope you consider asking it in public for the benefit of others),
+then use the [How to contact the IOCCC](contact.html) information to ask
+a private question.
+
+**IMPORTANT**: When you ask your question (in public or as a private question)
+**PLEASE** try to **NOT** discuss detailed information about any pending submission.
+Try to ask for question in a more generic way as this will help others
+with a similar question and this will not **give away** what you might be doing
+with your submission.  If the [IOCCC judges](judges.html) truly need more
+information, they will ask (either in public or suggest a private conversation).
+
+Again, **please** don't hesitate to ask: Your question may be something that
+others are wondering about as well!
+
+See also the
+FAQ on "[rules, guidelines, tools feedback](#feedback)".
+
+Jump to: [top](#)
+
 </li>
+
+<li>
+<div id="feedback">
+<div id="comments">
+### Q: How can I comment or make a suggestion on IOCCC rules, guidelines and tools?
+</div>
+</div>
+
+The [IOCCC judges](judges.html) to welcome feedback on the [IOCCC
+rules](next/rules.html), [IOCCC guidelines](next/guidelines.html)
+and on the [IOCCC mkiocccentry tools](https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry).
+
+To comment on the [IOCCC rules](next/rules.html) or the
+[IOCCC guidelines](next/guidelines.html) please view the
+[GitHub discussions for this repo](https://github.com/ioccc-src/winner/discussions).
+If there is an on-going discussion that seems relevant to what you
+have to say, consider adding comments to that particular discussion.
+Otherwise consider opening a [new IOCCC repo
+discussion](https://github.com/ioccc-src/winner/discussions/new/choose).
+
+To comment on [IOCCC mkiocccentry tools](https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry),
+please view the [mkiocccentry repo discussions](https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions).
+If there is an on-going discussion that seems relevant to what you
+have to say, consider adding comments to that particular discussion.
+Otherwise consider opening a [new mkiocccentry
+discussion](https://github.com/ioccc-src/mkiocccentry/discussions/new/choose).
+
+Jump to: [top](#)
+
+</li>
+
+
 <li>
 <div id="how_many">
 <div id="submissions">